Stop Political Hobbyism: Use Civic Tech with Elisabeth Ashley, Founder of the civic engagement platform CivixThread and George Polisner, Founder of Civ.works

This week’s podcast opens with the Patti Smith tune  People Have the Power which is a rock anthem about collective agency, human unity, and the power of ordinary people to create massive social and political change.  Patti Smith Co-wrote the song with her late husband Fred “Sonic” Smith, and it serves as a timeless rallying cry for activism, hope, and justice. The central message is that true power rests not with governments or leaders, but in the hands of united citizens. The song urges people to overcome apathy, stand against war and injustice, and use their collective voice and collective will to reshape society. 

People have the power, and we need that power more than ever to effect change and right wrongs. We must have conversations about what affects every issue we cover on The Many Shades of Green podcast—from climate change and clean energy to public health, education, politics and our local communities. We need to focus on what we must do to stop the current dismantling of democracy. We can start by being proactive, participating and doing our civic duty to get those in power to defend and uphold the constitution. Democracy isn’t just something that happens every two or four years at the ballot box, and we need to participate daily. It’s built on informed citizens, thoughtful conversations, and being proactive. Democracy doesn’t thrive on its own, as it must be cultivated, cared for, and continually renewed. On this episode of TMSOG we explore why educating, informing, and engaging society is essential if democracy is to remain meaningful and resilient. The power to take action is within us all, and we must use it, or we will lose it. Also be sure to check your voter registration and have a plan to vote!

To get some insight into the need to engage society into being more civic minded, we have two amazing guests on the program who give us great information. Elisabeth Ashley is the founder of CivixThread, a civic engagement platform focused on verified participation. Elisabeth holds a B.S. in Computer Science and is currently enrolled in Columbia University’s Al Engineering Executive Program. She has a full-stack background, with experience as an Application Developer, Database Developer, and is now a Software Engineer. We also have George Polisner on the program. George is the founder of Civ.works and he is our resident political analyst, environmentalist and favorite curmudgeon. 

 We delve into how we can work to create a more meaningful democracy, and we talk about the importance of civic responsibility and education. In addition we discuss the normalization of what is going on in plain sight. We are becoming numb to news of fires, floods, tariffs, war, ICE, the Epstein files and more, as we deal with chaos each day. The most recent health related chaos is lettuce tainted with cyclospora, and the news explaining how it can cause “explosive diarrhea.” That word usage is far from normal. So what we can do to be proactive in making good trouble? A meaningful democracy isn’t someone else’s responsibility, it belongs to all of us. For more information go to: https://civixthread.com/ and https://civ.works/

To help defend democracy please donate if you can to help lawyers defend our constitution by going to:  https://www.aclu.org/  https:/ /www.brennancenter.org/  https://libertyjusticecenter.org/ 

To help protect the environment visit and please donate to  https://earthjustice.org  and https://action.nrdc.org/ Help save a forest by going to https://www.preservebuttonhook.org/

To listen to past TMSOG shows go to:  https://hudsonriverradio.com/https://malcolmpresents.com and https://themanyshadesofgreen.com/

Follow The Many Shades of Green on FB, Threads and Instagram @tmshadesofgreen and on Blue Sky @tmshadesofgreen.bsky.social. Listen to TMSOG podcasts on all major podcast apps.#RaiseYourEco&SocialConsciousness.  

A big shout out to Neil for all his engineering wizardry!

Heat Domes in Virgo, Smoke Gets in Our Eyes, Let Us Not Eat Lettuce, July Astrology and more with Charlotte Ghiorse, Founder of House of ChoCLeT

We start off the episode with the tune Heat Wave which is a 1933 jazz standard written by Irving Berlin. The song uses scorching summer weather as a playful metaphor for intense, passionate desire. I am not sure if today’s heat domes bring out the same passion, and while heat waves are not new to summer months, heat has become more extreme, and so perhaps a new song needs to be written titled What’s It All About-Heat Domes. Because of its show-stopping, rhythmic nature, Heat Wave has been covered by numerous icons, including Ethel Waters (who debuted it), Ella Fitzgerald, and Marilyn Monroe in the film There’s No Business Like Show Business

   This summer, millions of people across the United States, Europe and globally are experiencing something that has become increasingly familiar: relentless, dangerous heat. Cities are breaking temperature records. Emergency rooms are seeing increases in heat-related illnesses. Energy systems are being pushed to their limits, as people turn to air conditioning for relief. Are these extreme heat events the new normal, and how much are they connected to climate change? Climate change exacerbates droughts and warms the atmosphere, both of which intensify heat waves and heat domes. The Union of Concerned Scientists (UCS) warns that while high-pressure heat domes are a natural atmospheric phenomena, fossil fuel-driven climate change is supercharging them. Warmer oceans and atmospheres trap heat more effectively, making these systems more stagnant, prolonged, and intense, directly amplifying extreme summer temperatures across North America. Warming temperatures can also lead to forest fires, which leads to dangerous smoke in the air. Climate Scientists note that a fundamentally warmed planet means heat domes trap much more heat and humidity, which would be virtually impossible without decades of human-caused greenhouse gas emissions. 

  Heat domes are dangerous for humans and animals. Not only can they create record-high temperatures during the day, but they also warm temperatures during the night. Children, the elderly and people with underlying health conditions are most affected by the heat. Heat domes are not just a weather story. They are a reminder that the climate we live in today is changing, and extreme heat is becoming one of the defining challenges of our era. The science is clear: a warmer atmosphere increases the likelihood of more intense and prolonged heat events. The choices we make in our communities, our energy systems, and our policies will influence how much hotter the planet becomes and how prepared we are to face it.

     So on this episode of TMSOG we talk about heat domes and how a warming climate is making extreme heat events more intense, longer-lasting, and more dangerous. We discuss the cyclospora parasite which is affecting what fruits and vegetables we can eat, plus a story about artist  Victor “Marka27″ Quiñonez, who was banned from exhibiting his work called I.C.E. Scream,” at University of North Texas. In addition, we cover positive eco news about a young lady, Rebecca Young in Glasgow, Scotland, who invented a solar blanket that fits in a backpack to help keep homeless people warm in colder weather. We hit on these topics as well as July astrology and more with our resident artist, activist, astrologist, comedian, writer, and marvelous mom, Charlotte Ghiorse, Founder of House of ChoCLeT. For more info go to https://www.houseofchoclet.com/ and check out Charlotte’s new show “Bad Music for Bad People” at the Nocturnal Cafe in Ithaca, NY July 19, 20, 23, 26,27 and August 1st.

Go to https://civ.works/defend for more info about civic action, voting and more.

To help defend democracy please donate if you can to help lawyers defend our constitution by going to:  https://www.aclu.org/  https:/ /www.brennancenter.org/ https://libertyjusticecenter.org/ 

To help protect the environment visit and please donate to  https://earthjustice.org  and https://action.nrdc.org/ Help save a forest by going to https://www.preservebuttonhook.org/

To listen to past TMSOG shows go to:  https://hudsonriverradio.com/https://malcolmpresents.com and https://themanyshadesofgreen.com/

Follow The Many Shades of Green on FB, Threads and Instagram @tmshadesofgreen and on Blue Sky @tmshadesofgreen.bsky.social. Listen to TMSOG podcasts on all major podcast apps.#RaiseYourEco&SocialConsciousness.  

A big shout out to Neil for all his engineering wizardry!

Caring for the Earth: Stories from Faith Communities with Reverend Carol Devine, Director of Blessed Tomorrow and Dayna Reggero, Founder of Climate Listening Project

This episode of TMSOG starts with the song What A Wonderful World sung by Louis Armstrong. The song was written in the turbulent late 1960s. The lyrics counter societal strife by celebrating the beauty of nature and human connection, encouraging listeners to pause, appreciate their surroundings, and find hope amidst adversity.


It is a wonderful world, yet many people don’t spend time to stop and smell the roses, or walk around in nature. Beauty surrounds us, but we all get stuck in our life bubbles and we don’t pay attention to what is most important. We are going through a difficult moment in time, but people are coming together to try and make things better. We have to protect the planet so that future generations will have clean air, land and water, and the message about climate needs to be prioritized. Climate change is a global environmental challenge that has profound ramifications for both human and non-human life across the planet. It is a crisis that raises deep questions of what constitutes responsible stewardship of the earth, and justice for all of its inhabitants. On this episode we discuss an important but sometimes overlooked part of the climate conversation—the role of faith communities. We delve into how congregations are responding to climate change, what motivates people of faith to become environmental leaders, and how communities can work together despite political differences. For millions of Americans, faith provides not only spiritual guidance, but also a framework for caring for one another and for the world we share. Many religious traditions teach stewardship, compassion, and responsibility for future generations—values that align naturally with environmental protection. Faith communities across the country are on the frontlines of climate action, leading with hope, compassion, and courage.

Our guests this TMSOG podcast are Dayna Reggero and Reverend Carol Devine. Reverend Devine is the Director of  Blessed Tomorrow, a coalition of faith leaders working through EcoAmerica to inspire climate action grounded in shared values of hope and compassion. She is an ordained pastor in the Christian Church (Disciples of Christ) and founded the creation care program, Green Chalice, for the denomination. Reverend Devine has pastored congregations in Kentucky, has been part of Disciples’ regional staff, and was Director of Admissions at Lexington Theological Seminary, where she earned her MDiv. Reverend Devin works with faith leaders and congregations across the country to help them engage thoughtfully and compassionately on climate change.  Dayna Reggero, is a friend of the podcast and is the founder of the Climate Listening Project. Her documentaries focus on community conversations and personal storytelling. Dayna has helped people across the country share their experiences with climate change to help foster understanding rather than division. 

For more information go to https://blessedtomorrow.org/get-the-film-series/ and  blessedtomorrow.org and https://climatelisteningproject.org/

Go to https://civ.works/defend for more info about civic action, voting and more.

To help defend democracy please donate if you can to help lawyers defend our constitution by going to:  https://www.aclu.org/  https:/ /www.brennancenter.org/ https://libertyjusticecenter.org/ 

To help protect the environment visit and please donate to  https://earthjustice.org  and https://action.nrdc.org/ Help save a forest by going to https://www.preservebuttonhook.org/

To listen to past TMSOG shows go to:  https://hudsonriverradio.com/https://malcolmpresents.com and https://themanyshadesofgreen.com/

Follow The Many Shades of Green on FB, Threads and Instagram @tmshadesofgreen and on Blue Sky @tmshadesofgreen.bsky.social. Listen to TMSOG podcasts on all major podcast apps.#RaiseYourEco&SocialConsciousness.  

A big shout out to Neil for all his engineering wizardry!

What Can WE Do? A Conversation with Dr. Kevin Danaher, Co-founder of Global Exchange and George Polisner, Founder of Civ.Works

The song of the week is California Reggae Debate-What Can I Do? By Mitch Margo

Brother Mitch wrote this in response to the endless wars, and the never changing bad news that continues to permeate society. But he saw hope, in that people have the power to make things better if they use their collective will and spirit. The chorus of the song isYou’ve got the power, I’ve seen you use it, you think you don’t have it, that’s how you lose it.

We all need to use our power and contribute to society, and that means raising your voice, being civic minded, and yes, not putting up with the current dismantling of democracy. According to the Collins Dictionary, being civic-minded means having an active concern for the well-being and affairs of your community. It describes someone who prioritizes the common good and takes personal responsibility for improving society often demonstrated through active citizenship, volunteering, and public service. People have the power to use their public spirit to rise up when things go south, and they must twist and shout to help people in need. When we collectively consider the importance of social responsibility and participate in community engagement, we are impacting not only our local communities, but also the wider world. Democracy must focus on the WE, not just the Me, Me, Me! It is important to vote in all elections, from school boards to the presidency. Volunteering is also a very important component of social responsibility. We have the power, we just have to use it. We as humans can take action to change things and make life better. It has been quite the challenge of late, as right now, in the USA, we are seeing the downward spiraling of democracy before our eyes. I am constantly mortified by a mainstream media which is capitulating to what is being done on a daily basis to reduce our rights, freedoms and power. But there are moments when I think we can overcome the current chaos, as people are coming together in communities all over the country (No Kings rallies) on a local and national level to fight back. We have the power, and we must use it for good, as right now we have to raise our voices to counter the current attack on our civil rights. We need to move forward and educate the populace about civic responsibility and duty, as the choice is clear that the power is within us. In the infamous words of Civil Rights Leader and Congressman John Lewis, we need to make “good trouble!” If we don’t use our power, we will lose it.

Our guests on this episode of TMSOG are Dr. Kevin Danaher and George Polisner Founder of Civ.Works.  Dr. Danaher is a co-founder of Global Exchange (1988), co-founder of Fair Trade USA (1997), founder and Executive Co-Producer of the Green Festivals (2001-2013), founder of the Green Guardians, and is a lifelong educator. His 1983 PhD in sociology from the University of California at Santa Cruz was based on his dissertation, “The Political Economy of U.S. Policy Toward South Africa.” He was very active in the anti-apartheid movement. Dr. Danaher has published numerous articles and is the author and/or editor of thirteen books, including: The Green Festival Reader: Fresh Ideas from Agents of Change; and Building the Green Economy: Success Stories from the Grassroots. He has also done many TED Talks and his most recent book, The Two Globalizations, is a free PDF download at https://www.kevindanaher.org/ He has an article, “On Becoming Solutionaries,” in the May 2020 issue of The Solutions Journal. https://thesolutionsjournal.com/becoming-solutionaries-first-global-revolution/

Go to https://civ.works/defend for more info about Civ.works.

To help defend democracy please donate if you can to help lawyers defend our constitution by going to:  https://www.aclu.org/  https:/ /www.brennancenter.org/ https://libertyjusticecenter.org/ 

To help protect the environment visit and please donate to  https://earthjustice.org  and https://action.nrdc.org/ Help save a forest by going to https://www.preservebuttonhook.org/

To listen to past TMSOG shows go to:  https://hudsonriverradio.com/https://malcolmpresents.com and https://themanyshadesofgreen.com/

Follow The Many Shades of Green on FB, Threads and Instagram @tmshadesofgreen and on Blue Sky @tmshadesofgreen.bsky.social. Listen to TMSOG podcasts on all major podcast apps.#RaiseYourEco&SocialConsciousness.  

A big shout out to Neil for all his engineering wizardry!

Let ’em Eat Pie! With George Polisner Founder of Civ.works

SONG OF THE WEEK IS BOSS OF ME (Malcolm in the MIddle TV theme song) by They Might Be Giants

Boss of Me by They Might Be Giants (Theme Song for Malcolm in the Middle)

According to the Cambridge Dictionary the phrase “boss of me” (often used in the idiom “you’re not the boss of me”) means that someone lacks the authority to command, control, or give orders to another person. 
So, a US President walks into a meeting with G7 world leaders, an hour late, and purportedly joked as he entered, when he said “I’m the boss!” Was it really a joke as the press is saying, or was it just another delusional quip?  The comment drew immediate laughter from world leaders in the room, but the public and media reactions were divided along international and party lines. 

Who really gets the piece of the pie?
It seems that the current administration wants to consume all the pieces of the pie or cake, leaving the crumbs to the underclass. The phrase “Let ‘em eat cake” comes to mind, and while the quote has been attributed to Marie Antoinette, she never really said those words.  The phrase was attached to her during  the French Revolution, as people viewed Marie Antoinette as a symbol of immense financial mismanagement—earning her the nickname Madame Deficit. Historians attributed the quote to her, as it served as powerful political propaganda, highlighting the royal family’s profound disconnect from the severe starvation and economic hardships faced by the common people. Fast forward to 2026, and the economic divide has grown even larger, as the oligarch billionaires, along with a newly minted trillionaire Musk, control more wealth than ever before. The Biff character in the Back to The Future movies has now taken center stage, and bullies are ruling the working class. The middle class piece of the American pie has become so small, that it takes up little room on the plate. 
That we remain pawns in the current regime is frightful, and unless we become more involved and take action to stop the madness, I fear the worst. Perhaps there is hope on the horizon, as the ‘No King’ rallies have brought millions of the people together to use their power. But we need to do more, we need to vote in numbers that are too large to be rigged, and hopefully we can replace the current stooges with sane people who have experience in running the government. On this weeks podcast we have George Polisner, Founder of Civ.works, who is our resident political analyst, environmentalist, and our favorite curmudgeon. We delve into the architecture of pie, islands in the stream, the desecration of many landmarks in Washington DC, the need to shift to renewable energy and more. Go to https://civ.works/defend for more info.

To help defend democracy please donate if you can to help lawyers defend our constitution by going to:  https://www.aclu.org/ https://www.brennancenter.org/https://libertyjusticecenter.org/ and https://civ.works/defend

To help protect the environment visit and please donate to  https://earthjustice.org  and https://action.nrdc.org/ Help save a forest by going to https://www.preservebuttonhook.org/

To listen to past TMSOG shows go to:  https://hudsonriverradio.com/https://malcolmpresents.com and https://themanyshadesofgreen.com/

Follow The Many Shades of Green on FB, Threads and Instagram @tmshadesofgreen and on Blue Sky @tmshadesofgreen.bsky.social. Listen to TMSOG podcasts on all major podcast apps.#RaiseYourEco&SocialConsciousness.  

A big shout out to Neil for all his engineering wizardry!

The Bees, The Octopus and The Plastic Eating Mushrooms with Charlotte Ghiorse Founder of House of ChoCLet

The Opening Song for this episode is Flight of the Bumble Bee.

Flight of the Bumblebee” is an orchestral interlude composed by Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov in 1899 for his opera The Tale of Tsar Saltan. Its musical meaning is to depict the erratic, frantic flight of a bumblebee, serving as magical background music for a prince transformed into an insect. While intended to be a minor background transition in the opera, the song’s vivid, frantic imagery caused it to take on a life of its own.

  • It became famously used as the theme for the 1930s radio and television show The Green Hornet. It has many musical challenges because of its immense speed and technical difficulty, it is frequently arranged for solo instruments and serves as a virtuosic showpiece for musicians wanting to display their dexterity and skill.

Bees are among the most important pollinators on Earth!

While honeybees often get the spotlight, thousands of native bee species quietly perform essential pollination services every day. One Spring day in 2022, a Cornell University entomology technician Rachel Fordyce, who regularly walked through East Lawn Cemetery in Ithaca New York, noticed bees everywhere and became quite curious. She collected several specimens and brought them back to the lab for identification. Hidden underground, beneath the gravestones and grassy pathways of the cemetery, scientists have uncovered an estimated 5.5 million bees—one of the largest known aggregations of ground-nesting bees ever documented anywhere in the world. What seemed like a routine observation soon turned into a major scientific discovery. It made national headlines, and many people imagined a gigantic underground hive, but that is not what is actually occurring. (Cornell Chronicle)

The bees at the cemetery are solitary mining bees. Each female builds her own nest in the soil. Unlike honeybees, they do not live in large colonies with queens and workers. Instead, millions of individual bees have chosen the same favorable habitat for nesting. This discovery reminds us that nature often thrives in the places we least expect it to. What is underground is often not noticed by us humans. There are massive mycelium (fungi) networks underground in forests which breakdown environmental toxins and can absorb radioactive waste. Nature is remarkable, and scientific discoveries teach us about  conservation, biodiversity, and the hidden wonders beneath our feet. 

On this episode of TMSOG podcast we delve into the bees of Ithaca, mushrooms that eat plastic, plus we will talk about the amazing Octopus, as well as politics, astrology and other eco and social issues with our resident eco activist, artist, astrologer, comic, marvelous mom and founder of House of ChoCLet, Charlotte Ghiorse.  Go to https://www.houseofchoclet.com/ for more information.

To help defend democracy please donate if you can to help lawyers defend our constitution by going to:  https://www.aclu.org/ https://www.brennancenter.org/https://libertyjusticecenter.org/ and https://civ.works/defend

To help protect the environment visit and please donate to  https://earthjustice.org  and https://action.nrdc.org/ Help save a forest by going to https://www.preservebuttonhook.org/

To listen to past TMSOG shows go to:  https://hudsonriverradio.com/https://malcolmpresents.com and https://themanyshadesofgreen.com/

Follow The Many Shades of Green on FB, Threads and Instagram @tmshadesofgreen and on Blue Sky @tmshadesofgreen.bsky.social. Listen to TMSOG podcasts on all major podcast apps.#RaiseYourEco&SocialConsciousness.  

A big shout out to Neil for all his engineering wizardry!

Science Matters with Julie McNamara, Federal Energy Policy Director with the Climate & Energy program at the Union of Concerned Scientists. 

This episode starts off with the TV theme song from The Big Bang Theory which is officially titled “The History of Everything”. It was written and recorded by the Canadian rock band Barenaked Ladies. The history of the song started when the show’s creators, Chuck Lorre and Bill Prady, asked the band to write a song explaining the entire history of the universe. Lead singer Ed Robertson wrote the lyrics from scratch in just about an hour. The track is famous for its rapid-fire, high-energy delivery of scientific milestones, covering everything from the Big Bang to the dawn of civilization.

Our whole universe was in a hot, dense state

Then nearly fourteen billion years ago expansion started, wait…

The earth began to cool, the autotrophs began to drool,

Neanderthals developed tools,

We built the wall (we built the pyramids)

Math, science, history, unraveling the mysteries,

That all started with the Big Bang! 

 We take for granted the amazing creations brought to us by science. Throughout history, scientific discoveries have transformed societies, increased life expectancy, improved living standards, and expanded our understanding of everything from the tiniest particles to the vastness of the universe. Yet today, science often finds itself at the center of public debates about education, health, technology, and public policy. 

The recent Artemis II moon mission brought science to the forefront, as people focused on the amazing crew and the tremendous effort of the astronauts, scientists, technologists and everyone who participated in the project to make it a success. Kids became infatuated with the mission and began to take a greater interest in science. So why does science matter? We cannot ignore science as to surrounds us daily in every aspect of life. Scientific literacy is essential in a democratic society and scientific expertise must not be ignored. Millions of people carry around an amazing device which fits in their pocket and connects them to a world of information. That amazing device the is the cell phone, and people take for granted the scientific research that went into producing it. 

   The cell phone was invented by integrating centuries of scientific discoveries in electromagnetism, computing, and battery chemistry.  It turns your voice into radio waves, routing them across a grid of towers, and shrinking massive circuits to fit in your hand held device. Science produced Rechargeable Battery Chemistry to charge your cell phone. It is interesting to note that Hollywood actress and scientist Hedy Lamarr invented the foundational technology for Wi-Fi. During World War II, she co-created a “frequency-hopping” radio system with composer George Antheil. This spread-spectrum technology prevented radio signals from being jammed and directly paved the way for modern Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and GPS. Scientific advancement made cell phones possible, without them we would all be tied to a wall. 

    Not only is the the smartphone in your pocket based on science, GPS navigation, weather forecasting, medical imaging,  renewable energy technologies, and life-saving pharmaceuticals are only possible by the work of scientists and researchers working for the better good. Many of these innovations originated from government-supported research programs.  

    Science helps determine whether our drinking water is safe, whether medications are effective, whether bridges stand, and whether crops survive drought. Climate change must be addressed, as it affects millions of people. Extreme weather is happening at a faster rate, and communities have to prepare for more floods, hurricanes, and wildfires.  The United States has been a global leader in scientific discovery. Federal investments in research helped create lifesaving medicines, advanced technologies, and countless innovations that fuel our economy. But many scientists now warn that America’s scientific enterprise is facing unprecedented political and financial pressure. Research funding has been reduced, advisory panels have been eliminated, grants have been canceled, and concerns are growing that politics is increasingly influencing scientific decision-making.  Scientists, universities, and organizations across the country are raising alarms about what they see as an erosion of scientific independence.

 Joining us on this episode of TMSOG is Julie McNamara, the Federal Energy Policy Director with the Climate & Energy program at the Union of Concerned Scientists. Julie’s research focuses on policies and measures that facilitate a rapid transition of our nations energy system. She holds an MS in technology and policy from MIT and a BA in biology and political economy from Williams College. Julie has been quoted widely in the Associated Press, Inside Cimate News, the LA Times, NPR and more. We discuss AI Data Centers, the repeal of the Endangerment Finding, the Chevron Deference, and the current climate of science in the US. We need to support the science community in these chaotic times. Science matters!

For more info go to Union of Concerned Scientists at https://www.ucs.org/

To help defend democracy please donate if you can to help lawyers defend our constitution by going to:  https://www.aclu.org/   https://www.brennancenter.org/  https://libertyjusticecenter.org/ and https://civ.works/defend

To help protect the environment visit and please donate to  https://earthjustice.org  and https://action.nrdc.org/ Help save a forest by going to https://www.preservebuttonhook.org/

To listen to past TMSOG shows go to:  https://hudsonriverradio.com/   https://malcolmpresents.com and https://themanyshadesofgreen.com/ Follow The Many Shades of Green on FB, Threads and Instagram @tmshadesofgreen and on Blue Sky @tmshadesofgreen.bsky.social. Listen to TMSOG podcasts on all major podcast apps.#RaiseYourEco&SocialConsciousnessA shout out to Neil Richter for all his engineering wizardry getting TMSOG out.

Can We De-ICE the Desert? With Bennett Burke, Yolanda Nava and George Polisner

The Protest Song is the tune which opens this episode of TMSOG. It was written and performed by Beans on Toast, which is the stage name of British folk-punk singer Jay McAllister, who frequently writes topical, protest-style folk music. The song has an anti-capitalist and pro-social meaning. The track takes direct aim at corporate greed, corrupt politicians, and globalism, advocating instead for a “people over profit, love over greed” ethos. It’s a call to action as the tune concludes that if enough ordinary people unite, they actually have the power to stop the status quo and change the world. 

ICE pepper sprayed a sitting US Senator… yes, a Senator! And they still want us to believe that this is “normal” and not a government spiraling into straight up lawlessness. Do not shut up about this. Protest. Call your representatives. Push your city to stop cooperating with ICE! That was from a post on Threads on May 26th 2026 which referred to the incident involving Senator Andy Kim who was trying to keep the peace at Delaney Hall, which is an immigration detention facility in Newark, New Jersey where the conditions are horrific. There are reports of inadequate medical care, food shortages and mistreatment of those being held there. Governor Mike Sherrill was denied entry into the facility as protests occurred outside. NJ Senator Andy Kim got caught in the middle when ICE began to pepper spray protestors, and they also sprayed an unknown chemical into the air. ICE fired rubber bullets into the crowd, hitting protesters.  We have had many dark times in American history, but what we are going through now is nothing I could have ever imagined. Our country is now under authoritarian rule, and it is quickly diving into fascism. This is all happening in plain sight, and from within our own government. The rule of law has disappeared. As the post on Threads said, this is not normal, and we cannot shut up about it. While we need to go about our daily lives, we cannot continue to turn a blind eye to what is going on in front of our faces. We need to take action, we need to resist, we need to pay attention, we need to do our civic duty and we must use our power. I literally cannot sleep at night, as the chaos and anguish is taking its toll on not only me, but millions of Americans who see the daily dismantling of democracy. There is strength in numbers, it’s time to take our country back!


Joining us on this episode of TMSOG is Bennett Burke who is a Catholic Priest working with PRICE: Pima Resists ICE -a volunteer group working to keep the abuses and lawlessness of ICE out of Marana and Tucson, AZ. He is a life long Social Justice Activist and Co-Founder of Matthew 25:34, a mutual aid group feeding, clothing, and advocating for people experiencing homelessness. Matthew 25:34 welcomes volunteers of all faiths and philosophies uniting around service to the marginalized and vulnerable with this tag line: “We’re not a church, we’re a movement for the marginalized.” Also on the program is Yolanda Nava a Mexican American pioneer renowned for her contributions to media and civil rights. She is the creator and host of “Do You See What I See” on You Tube. She was the first Latina on KNBC/TV and is an Emmy Award-winning journalist. Yolanda shattered barriers and illuminates stories and her career is a testament to her unwavering commitment to justice and empowerment. George Polisner also joins us. He is the founder of Civ.Works and is our resident political analyst, environmental guru and curmudgeon. 

For more info from George Polisner go to https://civ.works/defend and find his articles on Substack -Leadership Matters. Also please go to https://www.priceaz.org/ to help keep the detention center out of Marana AZ.

To help defend democracy please donate if you can to help lawyers defend our constitution by going to:  https://www.aclu.org/   https://www.brennancenter.org/  https://libertyjusticecenter.org/

To help protect the environment visit and please donate to  https://earthjustice.org  and https://action.nrdc.org/ Help save a forest by going to https://www.preservebuttonhook.org/

To listen to past TMSOG shows go to:  https://hudsonriverradio.com/   https://malcolmpresents.com and https://themanyshadesofgreen.com/ Follow The Many Shades of Green on FB, Threads and Instagram @tmshadesofgreen and on Blue Sky @tmshadesofgreen.bsky.social. Listen to TMSOG podcasts on all major podcast apps.#RaiseYourEco&SocialConsciousness

A Special shout out to Neil Richter for all of his help and engineering wizardry in getting TMSOG up and running each week.

Liberty and Justice for Some: Can More Education on Civics=A more Proactive Society? Plus Saying Adieu to Stephen Colbert’s Late Show with George Polisner of civ.works

Liberty and Justice for Some (Mitch Margo, 2000)

Spin a little spin, stay the truth to win

Suddenly it’s become liberty and justice for some

Forget Election Day, it’s equal protection day

You don’t have to vote at all

The supreme Court will handle the call

Those wise old owls in their treehouse

changed the course of history

Though there’s a song for every bird

Some of them will not be heard

The Liberty Bell has lost it’s ring

my voice don’t mean a thing

It only takes a 5-4 swing

Liberty and Justice for some

How can I trust a man

who doesn’t seem understand

that there is something inherently dumb

about liberty and justice for some


The song was written by my brother Mitch in response to the Supreme Court decision In the landmark 2000 case Bush v. Gore. The U.S. Supreme Court effectively decided the presidential election. In a 5-4 decision, the Court halted Florida’s manual ballot recount, citing a violation of the 14th Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause and ruling that time had run out to establish a valid recount standard. Since that time, SCOTUS has gotten even more rogue in a 5-4 decision overturning Roe v. Wade, and most recently, the court drastically weakened Section 2 the Voting Rights Act limiting how courts can order maps to be drawn.

To say the least, Americans feel frustrated, disconnected, and are very cynical about politics. Civic education and discourse are needed more than ever to create a proactive democracy.  In this moment of time in the US of A, when it feels like we are living in the upside down world, can we find the a glimmer of light or hope that will take us through the darkness? People are realizing that we must get back to a place where civic duty is brought to the forefront. I guess when we reach our lowest point as citizens, the only thing that will save us, from us, is us! We need to take matters into our own hands, as the three branches of government are no longer working to protect and serve We The People.  The American people are feeling a deep distrust of government, as the checks and balances are clearly not working. I remember taking a civics course in high school which was required back in the day, and we were taught our nation’s history, and the importance of voting was emphasized in class. There is a widening political divide in civics curriculum, states in blue and red states are reshaping what students learn in different ways, which will have an effect on the future of democracy. In recent years, civics education has become deeply politicized. Are schools preparing students to think critically, or simply reinforcing ideology? States including Florida, Texas, and Tennessee have passed laws limiting how race, gender, religion, and systemic inequality are discussed in classrooms. Other more purple states feel that students should learn why the Constitution matters, the importance of free speech, the dangers of authoritarian government, as well as the value of capitalism and personal liberty. States like California, New York, and Illinois often encourage classroom discussions about, structural racism, voting access, Climate justice, LGBTQ+ rights, protest movements, media literacy and misinformation. Educators in these states often emphasize “action civics” — encouraging students not just to understand democracy, but to actively participate in it. In this current moment in the US we have a “corrupt” Executive branch, a “do nothing Congress” and a Supreme Court which is “politicized” to such a high level, that it no longer protects American citizens. People don’t trust the government, even the Wall Street Journal editorial board had a blunt verdict on the proposed 1.7 billion so-called “anti-weaponization fund” a/k/a “slush fund” tied to Trump, they said, in a word, that it’s “Rotten.” 

  We are clearly in a  warped political age. So what can we do? We need to educate people and push for better and more civic education in schools. We also need to stand up, resist and take action as exhibited with the millions of people who attended the No Kings rallies.

  Civic education is a foundation to democracy, and we must use it in the right way to teach curriculum that includes understanding rights and responsibilities, critical thinking, media literacy, civil discourse, community engagement, the mechanics of voting, advocacy, and policymaking.  Civics education when taught with facts, not fiction, teaches students how to participate, not just observe. It is clear that we must talk to each other, and try to listen to opposing views. On this episode of TMSOG George Polisner, our resident political analyst, environmentalist and curmudgeon, and founder of Civ.works joins us to discuss civics, saying farewell to Stephen Colbert’s Late Show, corruption of the US government in plain sight, the National Debt and the continued chaos that floods our newsfeeds each day. For more info from George Polisner go to https://civ.works/defend and find his articles on Substack -Leadership Matters

To help defend democracy please donate if you can to help lawyers defend our constitution by going to:  https://www.aclu.org/   https://www.brennancenter.org/  https://libertyjusticecenter.org/

To help protect the environment visit and please donate to  https://earthjustice.org  and https://action.nrdc.org/ Help save a forest by going to https://www.preservebuttonhook.org/

To listen to past TMSOG shows go to:  https://hudsonriverradio.com/   https://malcolmpresents.com and https://themanyshadesofgreen.com/ Follow The Many Shades of Green on FB, Threads and Instagram @tmshadesofgreen and on Blue Sky @tmshadesofgreen.bsky.social. Listen to TMSOG podcasts on all major podcast apps.#RaiseYourEco&SocialConsciousness

A Special shout out to Neil Richter for all of his help and engineering wizardry in getting TMSOG up and running each week.

TMSOG Goes Bananas! Plus Food Waste, Banana Bacon Challenge and ‘Greenhushing’ with Charlotte Ghiorse

We start off the podcast with the song Yes, We Have No Bananas, covered by Louis Prima, which was recorded and released in 1949 on Mercury Records. The Song was originally published in 1923 and was written by Frank Silver and Irving Cohn. Frank Silver would stop on his way to a gig at a fruit stand owned by a Greek gentleman, who began every sentence with ‘Yes’. The jingle of his idiom haunted Silver and his friend Cohn. The man at the fruit stand who said “Yes! We Have No Bananas” and inspired the song, never gave a reason as to why he had no bananas, as he probably did not know why bananas were in  short supply. But there was in fact a worldwide decline in the banana crop caused by Panama disease, which develops from a fungus that lives in the soil. So, I can see why the fruit vendor did not have bananas to sell, and yes, Yes, We Have No Bananas had an interesting back story.

We are almost halfway through 2026 and bananas are in the news making headlines for transforming agricultural waste into eco-friendly products, including biodegradable plastic alternatives, sustainable fashion textiles, and renewable energy. Researchers and companies are converting banana peel extracts and fibrous stems (pseudostems) into durable materials, aiming to replace petro-chemical plastics and reduce agricultural waste. Food waste is a growing problem. Food systems are responsible for one-third of all human-caused greenhouse gas emissions. Within that, food loss and waste alone account for an estimated 8-10% of global emissions which is roughly equal to the carbon footprint of the entire tourism industry. Agricultural and corporate food waste has a ripple effect within the populace.  According to a recent article in earth.org, food waste from restaurants and business accounts for 28% of all the food wasted globally. Businesses that implement innovative solutions to reduce food waste can make a profit no ‘greenhushing’ needed. Companies can redirect excess food to communities that need it, which will save money and reduce their methane emissions simultaneously. Individuals also have to rethink their perception of food and change their habits. Eating smaller portions, composting scraps from veggies, fruits and bones and using leftovers can also make a difference. We are a throw away society, and as food gets over produced, it often winds up in land fills polluting the land, air and water. Educating the public about small changes in their habits can lead to both businesses and consumers monitoring their waste more closely, driving a more comprehensive and impactful change. In a world where food insecurity remains a daily reality for millions, the disposal of perfectly edible food is a profound moral failure. Consumer education and awareness about the food system and food waste is encouraged and necessary to reduce waste.

On this episode of TMSOG podcast we discuss how bananas can be used to reduce food waste and pollution. We chat with our resident eco activist, artist, astrologer, comic, marvelous mom and founder of House of Chochlet, Charlotte Ghiorse about Banana Bacon, ‘greenhushing’, Astrology and God’s Love We Deliver, a NYC non-profit that provides nutritious meals to people living with severe illnesses (https://www.glwd.org/). For more info about Charlotte, House of Choclet and Sexy Astrology go to https://www.houseofchoclet.com and Sexy Astrology on Facebook. It might be time to start a Banana Bacon Challenge!

For more information on civic action go to https://civ.works/ To help defend democracy please donate if you can to help lawyers defend our constitution by going to  https://www.aclu.org/   https://www.brennancenter.org/  

To help protect the environment visit and please donate to  https://earthjustice.org  Help save a forest by going to https://www.preservebuttonhook.org/

To listen to past TMSOG shows go to:  https://hudsonriverradio.com/   https://malcolmpresents.com and https://themanyshadesofgreen.com/ Follow The Many Shades of Green on FB, Threads and Instagram @tmshadesofgreen and on Blue Sky @tmshadesofgreen.bsky.social. Listen to TMSOG podcasts on all major podcast apps.#RaiseYourEco&SocialConsciousness

A Special shout out to Neil Richter for all of his help and engineering wizardry in getting TMSOG up and running each week.

Sedges Have Edges-Green Garden Tips with Victoria Alzapiedi

This episode of TMSOG starts with the song “Green Garden” by Laura Mvula. It was inspired by her joy of having a real garden when she moved into a house in her early years. The song symbolizes escape, familial warmth, and finding sanctuary in nature during childhood summers. The lyrics evoke a need to escape to a natural space, “taking shoes off” and stepping on a “green velvet” carpet (grass), representing a return to a grounded, peaceful state. It emphasizes a sense of community and the importance of nurturing relationships, as well as the need to adapt and grow in life.

It’s Spring time, and trees are coming to life, as they sprout leaves in many shades of green, making their entrance to Mother Nature’s grand show. I am truly in awe of the beauty of the cherry blossoms, ornamental pear and apple trees, and flowers of all colors, especially the tulips, lilacs, peonies, irises, violets and more. But, as Spring arrives, so do the landscapers who mow the lawns, blow the leaves and start their war on weeds, as they wipe out dandelions which bring a sprinkle of color to the manicured lawns, and are food for pollinators. Pesticides are generously applied, and while ticks are a problem, the chemicals kill essential insects, which include key pollinators such as bees, butterflies, moths, beetles, fireflies, and wasps. There are over 4,000 species of native bees which are the primary drivers of pollination. The use of pesticides, herbicides and fertilizer also affects birds, wildlife, our pets and yes, humans. Yellow signs on lawns have replaced the yellow dandelions with the warning DO NOT ENTER FOR 24 HOURS, basically shouting at me to stay off my neighbor’s lawn. The most popular weed killer is Roundup, which is considered harmful primarily due to its active ingredient, glyphosate, being linked to cancer—specifically non-Hodgkin lymphoma. According to studies and findings (IARC) glyphosate is classified as a probable human carcinogen. It also poses risks to environmental health by polluting water, persisting in soil, and damaging essential soil microorganisms. Another problem chemical is found in rodenticides which kills rodents. Rodenticides contain anticoagulants, bromethalin and other chemicals which kill wildlife and pets. We need to educate people of the consequences of these pesticides, and they should be banned from sale in the US just as they are in the EU. Let’s all be proactive in creating lawns and gardens that are less toxic and more benficial to wildlife, pets and humans.


On this week’s podcast we have Victoria Alzapiedi, our resident garden, wildlife and healthy yards guru and we discuss Spring gardens, alternative lawns (sedges), reducing pesticides to create a chemical free habitats, and the problem with  Roundup and rodenticides. Victoria is a co-founder of New Castle Healthy Yards, and is the chair of the Town of New Castle Conservation Board, as well as a member of the Westchester Climate Smart Communities Task Force. She is also a Native plant gardening consultant and coach providing eco-friendly planting recommendations . (mynativegardenoasis.com).

For more information go to New Castle Healthy Yards and The Nature of Westchester on Facebook. Check out the Audubon Society @ https://act.audubon.org and https://www.nwf.org/ National Wildlife Federation.

To help protect the environment visit and please donate to  https://earthjustice.org  Help save a forest by going to https://www.preservebuttonhook.org/

To listen to past TMSOG shows go to:  https://hudsonriverradio.com/   https://malcolmpresents.com and https://themanyshadesofgreen.com/ 

Follow The Many Shades of Green on FB, Threads and Instagram @tmshadesofgreen and on Blue Sky @tmshadesofgreen.bsky.social.

Listen to TMSOG podcasts on all major podcast apps.#RaiseYourEco&SocialConsciousness

A Special shout out to Neil Richter for all of his help and engineering wizardry in getting TMSOG up and running each week.

There’s Too Much Chaos, So Let’s Get Smart with George Polisner

We open with the song: They Own the Media written and performed by  Van Morrison, which was released May 7, 2021

In the song, Morrison critiques what he perceives as a lack of independent thought and the manipulation of information. Key lyrics from the track include: 

  • “They tell us that ignorance is bliss. I guess for those that control the media it is”.
  • “They own the media, they control the stories we are told”.
  • “They control the narrative, they perpetuate the myth“.

The mainstream media is now Meet De-press. We are witnessing the news media in the US being turned into State News, as the oligarchs control mainstream and social media. Facebook has 3 billion users, and Zuckerberg is controlling what we see and read on the platforms within the Meta Universe—Facebook, Instagram and Threads. 

The Ellisons via Skydance Media own Paramount and CBS, and just recently, shareholders of Warner Brothers approved to combine with Paramount. Skydance will own more than 50% of the media in the US if that merger goes through. Last I checked, that is a monopoly. In addition to all of this, Musk owns X, formally know as Twitter, Bezos owns The Washington Post, and of course the king of all conspiratorial media, there is Rupert Murdoch’s Fox News. We are being controlled by oligarchs who are kowtowing to a corrupt regime in charge of all three branches of government. We are watching and witnessing the Fourth Estate, the press, dissolve into news for conspiracy groups and an out of control Executive branch.  Walter Cronkite and Edward R. Murrow must be turning in their graves. The the press in 2026 is being assaulted, and independent, trustworthy outlets are being quashed by propagandistic media. Local newspapers are shutting down as costs rise, and CBS News has become State news, as it boosters the Trump administration’s messaging. FBI agents have raided the homes of Washington Post and New York Times reporters and the Pentagon Press corp has been dismissed only to sue and come back, but with reduced access. There is a war on independent media which is doing the bulk of reporting on important issues, as mainstream media, especially on the broadcast side, has fallen into a dumpster. Late Night TV has more genuine content than mainstream media, and CBS fired Stephen Colbert in a move that seems ripped out of the blacklist playbook of the McCarthy era, thus wiping out an important voice. Don Lemon was arrested and is now in court defending his right to report current events as a member of the independent press. There is some good news as various outlets such as Substack, where you can find Heather Cox Richardson and our own George Polisner is giving journalists a place to report the all consuming chaos we are all living through. Other good independent sources include ProPublica, The Guardian, The Associated Press, Reuters, PBS/NPR and more. 

On this week’s TMSOG podcast George Polisner, our resident political analyst, environmentalist and curmudgeon, and  founder of Civ.works joins us to discuss de-press, media consolidation, eco news, Earth Day and the current chaos of the day. In the words of Van Morrison, “they” control everything you own, they control the media! My guess is that he is referring to the oligarchs as the most likely “they“. For more info from George Polisner go to https://civ.works/defend

To help defend democracy please donate if you can to help lawyers defend our constitution by going to:  https://www.aclu.org/   https://www.brennancenter.org/  https://libertyjusticecenter.org/

To help protect the environment visit and please donate to  https://earthjustice.org  and https://action.nrdc.org/ Help save a forest by going to https://www.preservebuttonhook.org/

To listen to past TMSOG shows go to:  https://hudsonriverradio.com/   https://malcolmpresents.com and https://themanyshadesofgreen.com/ Follow The Many Shades of Green on FB, Threads and Instagram @tmshadesofgreen and on Blue Sky @tmshadesofgreen.bsky.social. Listen to TMSOG podcasts on all major podcast apps.#RaiseYourEco&SocialConsciousness

A Special shout out to Neil Richter for all of his help and engineering wizardry in getting TMSOG up and running each week.